[nunodonato]

On the flagships, maybe. But on open models (and especially the small ones), China is kicking ass.

[koakuma-chan]

Aren't they just distills.

[Alifatisk]

Deepseek, Qwen and Moonshot have contributed with lots cool and interesting papers.

[mapontosevenths]

Does it matter what they are if they outperform?

[llmslave]

yes and its weird for people to claim otherwise