[w4rh4wk5]

I think this got blown up right now due to how accessible it was.

However, I think it's clear that Pandora's box is now wide open and that you cannot close it. Sure, you can turn off that Grok integration, but the AI image generation capabilities are now widely available for basically anyone to use.

I wonder whether it'd be better to just "accept and live with it". I agree that this can cause a lot of harm, but I don't see a way where this can be outlawed and prosecuted in such a way that there's a net benefit for society. In the EU many have been battling proposals like Chat Control for the past decades not because they want to protect sex offenders, but because backdooring societies privacy on a grand scale is likely far more detrimental than the impact of sex offenders. (And here we aren't even talking about "real" CSAM content.)

[pjc50]

> I wonder whether it'd be better to just "accept and live with it".

I don't think a world where every female public figure gets nonconsensual porn of themselves shared _publicly_ is better.

Private is a separate matter, but only if it stays truly private.

[soraminazuki]

> I wonder whether it'd be better to just "accept and live with it".

Big tech's approach of move fast, break things, and gain a sh** load of money and influence has cost the world so much over the past two decades. So much so that the post-WWII rules-based international order is under threat. We're on the verge of sliding back towards a world where might make right and the powerful gets to kill, beat, steal, and sexually abuse whoever they want whenever they want. Worse, with the help of technology, they get to entertain the masses by turning those horrific acts into social media content.

It's largely due to the acts of big tech that we got into this mess. But instead learning from this biggest mistake of our generation and taking proactive steps to prevent further harm, you propose that we all suck it up and accept whatever our tech billionaire overlords want to further inflict on this world? WTAF.

> proposals like Chat Control

Are you seriously comparing banning tools for openly forging nudes and sex pics of people to backdooring people's private communications?

[w4rh4wk5]

First, I am not proposing anything.

I feel like we are already past the point where influential people have to play by the same rules as everyone else. I dislike this as much as 99% of the population, but I don't realistically see a remedy given how our governments (EU) are operating.

> Are you seriously comparing banning tools for openly forging nudes and sex pics of people to backdooring people's private communications?

I am not comparing these two things; I mentioned Chat Control as tackling CSAM is one of its main selling points. These forging tools are in the open and banning access and use of them is practically impossible. You could force platforms into setting up filters for public content, but this won't stop the nudes from being shared privately and likely still being accessible on the web _somewhere_. Just look at the bs on tiktok that's been publicly accessible and growing for years now...

IMHO public content filtering won't help much and the following steps will likely involve tapping into people's private content and messages. And this is where I draw the line.