[Amir_A]

"I don't believe in god but he promised me this land 3000 years ago" sums up Zionism pretty well, or "Jews aren't safe anywhere so let's create a state by wiping out and expelling the native population and make enemies of all our neighbors". It's such a laughably self-contradicting ideology

[yoavm]

Except none of these statements are part of the Zionist agenda. You putting them in quotes does not make them a quote.

I already explained why your first "quote" is false: Hertzel didn't think Jews should move to Israel because it was promised to them.

The second one is also completely wrong: He never called for expelling the native population, and he actually advocated for close and good contacts with them and the surrounding countries.

[whatshisface]

The effect you're describing is often created when people with very distinct views agree on one thing and argue in favor of it along conflicting axiomatic lines.