[Foxboron]

So blocking Kiwifarms took.. months of activism and loud complaining. Heraled by Matthew as "this is an extraordinary decision for us to make and, given Cloudflare's role as an Internet infrastructure provider, a dangerous one that we are not comfortable with".

However a fine that amounts to ~0.7% of the annual revenue and they threaten to block an entire country?

[ExpertAdvisor01]

Actually, the fine amounts to over 200% of Italy-sourced revenue ($17 million fine vs. $8 million in revenue in 2024). Why would you continue doing business in Italy?

[Foxboron]

They are a conglomerate and per Matthews words "an internet infrastructure provider". Why does the local revenue matter when they are serving a global market?

EDIT: And fwiw, "Why would you continue doing business in Italy?" is not what is being proposed. They are threatening to block 55 million people from ~20% of the world wide web.

[Hamuko]

How much revenue did Kiwifarms bring in?

[renewiltord]

Yeah that makes sense to me. If you come up to me and say “you have to arrest that guy; he’s stealing from me” I have to do a lot of research to make sure that everything is correct.

On the other hand, if I see you steal from me, I don’t have to do a lot of research. I am a first party to the thing. I can be sure.

It’s the difference between a policeman arriving on the scene of an assault and someone actually assaulting the policeman.

The acting party being the affected party simplifies things because you know you’re not a “confused deputy”.

[Illniyar]

He isn't threatening to block Italy, just to remove cloudflare's business from there. Anyone living and surfing from Italy would not be blocked by cloudflare from accessing any service provided by cloudflare.

[simianparrot]

How do you not understand the difference..?

[pessimizer]

> So blocking Kiwifarms took.. months of activism and loud complaining.

Kiwifarms isn't a pirate site. It's just another site that you think is legitimate to censor.

> However a fine that amounts to ~0.7% of the annual revenue and they threaten to block an entire country?

What's going to be next weeks fine? Of course they should block the entire country. Even if they pay the fine (I could imagine there's some way that the EU could force that on pain of forcing them out of Europe), they should block the country.

Shouldn't Italy want lawbreakers to leave?

[Alex2037]

>activism and loud complaining

I'm not sure why would you want to remind the world about that episode. those men lied, stalked, harassed, and threatened a lot of people to get that perfectly legal website exposed to very illegal DDoS attacks.