[hephaes7us]

The evil is enshrining other people's choices into law, unnecessarily.

There was never going to be anything preventing non-technical folks from buying iPhones. They can and should have what they like.

Why should there be a law that forces that same compromise onto anyone who can only afford a single device and needs to use it to access their bank?

[pie_flavor]

Because when you don't do this, people get scammed out of money.

If there is a series of buttons you can press to circumvent the anti-scam measures, then the scammers simply walk you through pressing those buttons. If you cover them in giant warning labels the scammers simply add explanations into their patter. The buttons must physically not exist, for gullible people to not get scammed out of money.

The next response will be 'well maybe we shouldn't accommodate them'. They vote, and there's more of them than you.

[lxgr]

> Because when you don't do this, people get scammed out of money.

No, only when you don't do this and nothing else to improve security. You're presenting a false dichotomy.

> If there is a series of buttons you can press to circumvent the anti-scam measures, then the scammers simply walk you through pressing those buttons.

If the scammers can walk somebody through doing all that, why would they stop at just asking them to send money over to them "to safekeep it because of a compromised account" or whatever the social engineering scheme of the week is?

[bigstrat2003]

> Because when you don't do this, people get scammed out of money.

I don't care. Society doesn't exist to keep people safe from their own bad decisions.

[soraminazuki]

> Because when you don't do this, people get scammed out of money.

Bullshit. Big tech's war on general purpose computing hasn't stopped scam. It's a pretext for rent seeking and control and you know it. It's the reason we don't have a popular ecosystem of FOSS alternatives on mobile. It's the reason we can't run virtual machines on tablets when the hardware very much can.

If combating scam is a priority of big tech, I know where to start. Get rid of ads! That would actually be enormously effective as it gets rid of the primary entry point of scams.

> If there is a series of buttons you can press to circumvent the anti-scam measures

So the best you can come up with is an imaginary button on phones that can magically circumvent checks that should be implemented server-side? Have you any idea how software works?

[LorenPechtel]

Or rig screens such that the buttons do not appear to be what they are. I've seen many a install-this-app ads where cancel isn't cancel.

The average user simply does not have the skill to determine real from fake and any heuristics to do so will be defeated by the scammers. You have to be able to understand what could be done with access, not what's "intended" with the access.

[thewebguyd]

> If there is a series of buttons you can press to circumvent the anti-scam measures, then the scammers simply walk you through pressing those buttons. If you cover them in giant warning labels the scammers simply add explanations into their patter. The buttons must physically not exist, for gullible people to not get scammed out of money.

We shouldn't be protecting someone that gullible at the expense of everyone else who is smart enough to actually read whats on the screen and not fall for such simple scams.

Not that long ago most of this forum was very much against giving up freedoms in favor of catering to the lowest common denominator. What happened?

People need to take responsibility for their own actions and educate themselves, not rely on a lack of freedom to protect them.