[petiepooo]

People still use UPnP? That's the first thing I disable on a new router.

[jeroenhd]

I use UPnP. My Fritz!Box router disables it by default, controls UPnP access with per-device controls, and permits using it to open IPv6 ports on the WAN side as well.

None of the IoT crap can open ports but I don't need to use a web UI to temporarily open a port on my computer.

I know plenty of shitty routers have terrible security on it and should have it disabled by default, but the protocol itself is pretty useful.

[drnick1]

Aren't those Fritz!Box routers (common in Europe) precisely examples of "shitty routers with terrible security?"

The first thing I would do with a typical residential Internet connection is to ask the ISP to give me an ONT so that I can use my own router, a commodity x86 PC running Linux. Their underpowered plastic boxes simply won't cut it when it comes to complex firewall rules and high VPN throughput. I also don't want to deal with their shitty web UIs and would rather script the setup I want.

[miladyincontrol]

I do not use UPnP myself but I agree with the notion, hate the bad implementations not the protocol itself. When limited to specific ports by specific devices it does have its uses.

[imcritic]

Isn't fritz a derogatory term for Germans? That's a weird choice of a name for a router. Or is it like a joke? Or maybe Germans aren't familiar with that slur?

[jcelerier]

what are the other options, if I want to open a port and don't want (or can't) to go to the router config ?

[kelnos]

If you have the ability to disable UPnP on the router, then you presumably have the ability to set up port forwards manually. "Don't want" doesn't come into play; if you disable UPnP, that's the trade off you're making.