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drbig | 1 month ago

> The ALPM project arose from the need for more clearly specifying the interfaces, as well as providing bindings and tools in a memory-safe programming language.

Whose need?

As an admin and a user I kindly ask: why? what for?

`pacman` which has been and is working fine for over two decades on multiple architectures is two packages - and that includes mirror finder.

This project seems like a CS exercise: funded by a grant, designed by committee, producing a lot of complex artifacts (already over a dozen packages)... and it's unclear if the lot of that can even install a single package.

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forgotpwd16|1 month ago

Arch package management isn't just pacman, but also makepkg, namcap, dbscripts, devtools (pkgctl and others). As end-user/sysadmin you may not even have heard about them but distro is built atop them.

drbig|1 month ago

As a sysadmin I'm very familiar with `makepkg`, its config file and the fact that sooner or later one will need both `clang` and `gcc`, because they're equivalent only in theory ;-)

But as I maintain only a library of pre-build(-once) software, rather than being an actual package maintainer - surely there is the whole other side that I normally do not see, much less touch.

Having said that, I'm all for better tooling - it's just that the project doesn't even hint, much less describe, the actual benefits for the people who will (sooner or later? have to?) use it.

And, unfortunately, I've been doing this for long enough to approach _any_ increase in complexity with at least anxiety, if not outright sadness (at "you could have spent that time/money on more _useful_ work", usually).

imtringued|1 month ago

Arch Linux doesn't fork upstream projects and usually only does minimal changes/patches to a package. This means package maintainers spend the vast majority of their time packaging.

When you think about it, a Linux distribution should upstream useful changes to the original project and have the changes be available through configuration. But if that is the case then the vast majority of the code lives outside the Linux distribution. The package manager including the server backend might be the largest code base of Arch Linux and perhaps even the only one that has a meaningful size to begin with.

anonnon|1 month ago

> This project can be used under the terms of the Apache-2.0 or MIT. Contributions to this project, unless noted otherwise, are automatically licensed under the terms of both of those licenses.

Thanks, German government!