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opponent4 | 1 month ago

This was, still is and for the foreseeable future it'll be bad advice. Stay on Windows 10 as long as you can. With LTSC IoT that's 2032. We will figure out something then.

It doesn't work. Right now the main issue is Wayland vs X where Wayland is not working and will never work because the underlying ideas and goals do not align with that of a desktop. Someone described X as ALSA, Wayland as PulseAudio and we are waiting for PipeWire to arrive. Maybe Phoenix will sweep in to save the day, maybe something else will.

Also, hardware and software issues will always be there because the incentives are not there.

I swear Linux on the desktop adherents sound like they have some sort of Stockholm Syndrome but of course in reality just cognitive dissonance explains it.

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worksonmine|1 month ago

Is the IoT version of Windows 10 a full desktop? I tried it on my Raspberry Pi when it was released for free but I didn't get past booting. I dropped it because I didn't understand what it was, or what I was supposed to do with it and I wasn't curious enough to find out. This is your suggestion for my grandmother over some simple Linux distro with a browser?

foresto|1 month ago

> Wayland is not working and will never work because the underlying ideas and goals do not align with that of a desktop.

Can you elaborate on this?

I don't use Wayland because it lacks something I need (unprivileged Scroll Lock LED control) but I'm curious about what else keeps people from using it.

BLKNSLVR|1 month ago

This was true for a majority of users even fairly recently, but the 'niche' for which Linux is a better option has grown such that those who are worse off with Linux (better off with Windows) are becoming the 'niche'.

lpcvoid|1 month ago

>Wayland is not working

What's your source on that? I have been using it for years. Skill issue?

worksonmine|1 month ago

I'm still on X because I'm too comfortable with dwm and I've never had problems with Wayland the few times I've tried KDE/Gnome. That said blaming the user for lacking skill for basic stuff like copy/paste between applications or screen sharing isn't constructive. Those features should just work and shouldn't require skill. Building a niche window manager from source is a different discussion.