[llmslave3]

There is also plenty of extremely experienced programmers saying "this stuff is useless for programming".

[simonw]

If a bunch of people say "it's impossible to go to the moon, nobody has done it" and Buzz Aldrin says "I have been to the moon, here are the photos/video/NASA archives to prove it", who do you believe?

[oulipo2]

The equivalent of "we've been to the moon" in the case of LLMs would be:

"Hey Claude, generate a full Linux kernel from scratch for me, go on the web to find protocol definitions, it should handle Wifi, USB, Bluetooth, and have WebGL-backed window server"

And then have it run in a couple of hours/days to deliver, without touching it.

We are *far* from this