[tolciho]

> This is also a good reason to log everything all the time in a human readable way. You can get services up and then triage at your own pace after.

Unless, hypothetically, the logging velocity tickles kernel bugs and crashes the system, but only when the daemon is started from cron and not elsewhere. Hypothetically, of course.

Or when the system stops working two weeks after launch because "logging everything" has filled up the disk, and took two weeks to so do. This also means important log messages (perhaps that the other end is down) might be buried in 200 lines of log noise and backtrace spam per transaction, which in turn might delay debugging and fixing or at isolating at which end of the tube the problem resides.

[zufallsheld]

Yeah, and then it probably isn't the developers job to fix that but rather the DevOps engineer's one.

Also saying "the developer has to fix this" is something we tried to abolish when talking about DevOps. What about shared responsibility? Bridging the knowledge gap.