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_ink_ | 1 month ago

I am really puzzled that this topic is not present in the public discourse.

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zvqcMMV6Zcr|1 month ago

Politicians look at best at next term, CEOs look at next quarter. Climate changes took decades to manifest effects. And those 2 groups produce most news "worthy" messages. Journalism is quite close to being dead (with local reporting already being buried), as rephrasing PR statements is cheapest and fastest way to produce "content". Who is supposed to nudge public discourse in that direction, "influencers"?

HighGoldstein|1 month ago

> Climate changes took decades to manifest effects.

*centuries, it was first predicted in the 19th century when Britain was burning increasingly massive amounts of coal.

_ink_|1 month ago

Yeah, this short sighted leadership looks like a systematic problem in western society to me.

Cthulhu_|1 month ago

I'm puzzled why you think it isn't.

stinkbeetle|1 month ago

Do you mean how it is verboten to suggest that mass migration would cause conflicts or be at all problematic?

mvdwoord|1 month ago

Not sure, but I have heard that more than plenty in public discourse (NL / W-Eur) and even the repeated blatant lies about the 2015 wave of migration to be due to climate change.

grumbelbart2|1 month ago

Climate change was likely a factor in 2015.

https://www.dw.com/en/how-climate-change-paved-the-way-to-wa...

> even the repeated blatant lies

It is difficult to have a reasonable discourse when starting with such overkill positions. The topic is way too nuanced. The civil war in Syria had many reasons, political, economic, religious, but also environmental.

Climate change massively increases the risk on water supply and harvesting yields, and if that risk manifests in a situation where people are already unhappy due to other reasons, it can be the trigger for large-scale reactions.

With all that having many factors, you'll rarely be able to point to one thing as "the" cause. That does not make it less relevant, though.