[abielefeld]

Hi! Have you every checked out aisler.net? In my opinion they do an amazing job, it's not quite JLCPCB prices, but maybe only 20% higher depending on what service you take, and they deliver faster since they are based in europe.

Their business model is pooling small orders and sending them to board fabs in europe, mainly germany and some in the east.

[magicalhippo]

> maybe only 20% higher depending on what service you take

For higher-end board that seems likely. For cheap hobby-grade boards just the job fee[1] is more than 10 boards delivered is from JLCPCB.

That said, thanks for reminding me. Will definitely compare next time I need boards.

[1]: https://community.aisler.net/t/our-simple-pricing/102#p-124-...

[tgsovlerkhgsel]

The job fee seems to include shipping, which makes it more reasonable. But Aisler's "estimated dispatch" for the budget service is Jan 26. That's 10 business days + shipping, making it not very competitive with JLCPCB's 10-15 business days including the slowest/cheapest shipping.

Express service adds ~20 EUR, roughly the same cost as picking DHL express delivery on JLCPCB.

[bArray]

> For higher-end board that seems likely. For cheap hobby-grade boards just the job fee[1] is more than 10 boards delivered is from JLCPCB.

Just checked myself using a board I already had manufactured, and can confirm it's a lot higher than JLCPCB or PCBWay.

Maybe for rapid prototyping it is okay, but at scale, to make one board is more than the entire selling point of the whole device.

[crote]

Aisler is decent for bare boards, but their PCBA is several orders of magnitude more expensive due to the setup & handling fees. JLCPCB has this down to a science, with their preloaded (and therefore dirt-cheap) "basic parts" and pre-approved "extended parts" pulled directly from LCSC for a small fee.

On top of that they also offer 3D printing, CNC machining, sheet metal bending, and even a McMaster-Carr-like parts store. It is literally a one-stop-shop for all your hardware prototype needs.