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pazimzadeh | 1 month ago

There’s no opposition though? As much as some people outside Iran want, I don’t think the Shah’s son has enough of a base of support inside Iran.

This doesn’t seem very different than the 2008 and Mahsa protests.

Most likely there will be an internal reorganization towards economic reform and moderate social policies.

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observationist|1 month ago

There's a huge difference - in previous protests, they were begging the regime to hear their voices, to do the right thing - to reform, or change policy.

This time, there's no calls for conciliation or change, it's outright "death to the tyrants" and an astonishing number of people hitting the streets. They're burning down mosques, tearing down statues, burning out police stations, lynching regime officials, going to officials houses and dragging them out, and so on.

Also, it's been going on for 16 days at this point, and for some reason, is noticeably absent from world media. That feels significant, somehow.

pazimzadeh|1 month ago

Well, where are you getting this information if the internet's been cut off in Iran? All sides are spreading their propaganda so it's hard to say what's actually happening.

There are reports of hospitals, banks and other institutional buildings being burned, even fire engines - but does it make sense for iranians to burn those?

But the mossad stated they have agents acting in the field. https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/article-881733

FYI, statues of khomeini, etc were burnt during Mahsa Amini protests too. https://x.com/Joyce_Karam/status/1573372214833041409?s=20

The question remains - after everything is burned to the ground, what opposition or leader is going to take control, if not the IRGC or military?

> it's been going on for 16 days at this point, and for some reason, is noticeably absent from world media. That feels significant, somehow

somehow, yes, but in a good or bad way? what is the significance? maybe the US/israel was gearing up to bomb Iran and the revolts would endear Iranian people to the Western public in a way that powers that be don't want? just thinking out loud here

Edit: chanced on an article which kind of supports this idea

  A national security expert said President Donald Trump may already be prepared to act against Iran, suggesting a widely reported upcoming briefing on U.S. options could be intentional "deception" as deadly protests intensify in the country.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/trumps-iran-briefing-may-decep...

Aloisius|1 month ago

Iran's currency collapsed. That generally requires more than platitudes and token reform to recover from.

pazimzadeh|1 month ago

Agreed, I’m saying the regime will pass reforms (or try to, given sanctions). I would love for the end of the regime, but who tell me who will take its place?

Realistic best case scenario right now is a situation like England where there is technically a monarch (who also heads the church) but they practically hold no power (less and less over time).