[Youden]

You're missing the point. There were only two possible outcomes: Democrats or Republicans. Both were bad and unappealing. Both are too dependent on the status quo to serve as vehicles for real change (so primaries are pointless too).

"More parties", through elimination of first past the post, absolutely changes things. It allows you to vote for someone who truly represents you and your interests without "throwing away" your vote. That's impossible today.

[johnnyanmac]

Dems didn't really get primaries in 2024, so that certainly didn't help.

>"More parties", through elimination of first past the post, absolutely changes things.

Indeed. But that's the one single thing D's and R's can agree on not doing. It'll need to be done state by state to get any real leverage.

[allturtles]

Well we are getting some "real change" now, so I guess the monkey's paw works.

[JumpCrisscross]

> There were only two possible outcomes: Democrats or Republicans

This is the civic illiteracy a higher comment refers to. Beyond the primaries, there are numerous down-ballot initiatives that don't tend to cleanly sort along party lines.