[tedmiston]

The only truly secure computer is an air gapped computer.

[TeMPOraL]

Indeed. I'm somewhat surprised 'simonw still seems to insist the "lethal trifecta" can be overcome. I believe it cannot be fixed without losing all the value you gain from using LLMs in the first place, and that's for fundamental reasons.

(Specifically, code/data or control/data plane distinctions don't exist in reality. Physics does not make that distinction, neither do our brains, nor any fully general system - and LLMs are explicitly meant to be that: fully general.)

[JoshTriplett]

And that's one of many fatal problems with LLMs. A system that executes instructions from the data stream is fundamentally broken.

[pbhjpbhj]

You'll also need to power it off. Air gaps can be overcome.

[lukan]

Yes, by using the microphone loudspeakers in inaudible frequencies. Or worse, by abusing components to act as a antenna. Or simply to wait till people get careless with USB sticks.

If you assume the air gapped computer is already compromised, there are lots of ways to get data out. But realistically, this is rather a NSA level threat.

[viraptor]

This doesn't apply to anyone here, is not actionable, and is not even true in the literal sense.