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teknopaul | 1 month ago

Adams stated he was racist and thought that was aok.

I'd say calling him out as a racist is not exactly speaking ill of the dead in this case.

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marknutter|1 month ago

For anyone else reading this comment, know that it is a blatant lie. I suggest you look into it for yourself.

NoMoreNicksLeft|1 month ago

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Arainach|1 month ago

Humanity and civilization are defined by going beyond any base instincts.

Even if you're correct (I don't agree), consider other things: if you look at someone and your body has an instinctive desire to have sex with them, you are obligated to realize that just doing so without regard for consent or other things is not OK. If you don't realize that and proceed based on instinct, that's rape.

You can feel whatever instincts you want. If you feel bad or harmful ones, you should acknowledge it. It doesn't really matter if you feel guilty or shame or whatever you want to call it, but you should absolutely internally recognize that these things are *wrong*.

WickyNilliams|1 month ago

This is a silly appeal to nature.

But to address the point. There may be base instincts to which we are all subject. But that doesn't mean we should embrace them or proudly wear them as a badge. Violence is entirely natural. And yet most will agree it should not be embraced. Someone proudly declaring themselves as violent will (and should!) be judged harshly. I say the same holds true for racism, whether it is "natural" or not.

Much (all?) of civilisational progress is characterised by moving away from the natural state to a higher strata. The civil part of civilization is entirely unnatural

JadeNB|1 month ago

> If that were true, how could it be anything but ok? Should I feel guilty because I evolved from monkeys and carry around the leftist equivalent of original sin?

I think that there's a gap between "how can it be anything but OK" and "should I feel guilty." There are plenty of things that aren't OK, but about which you don't need to feel guilty. Should you feel guilty that your body intrinsically craves foods that aren't good for you? I'd say that no purpose is served by feeling that way, but that doesn't mean that it's healthy to indulge those cravings.

deckard1|1 month ago

ah, hacker news. Such a reliable source of the dumbest fucking takes on the entire Internet.

But no, don't let me stop you from justifying your hatred of certain people through the ever-convenient excuse of "evolution".

zzzeek|1 month ago

It's not OK to poop on the floor yet humans had no toilets for tens of thousands of years. Try doing some more thinking on this one

also no, racism is not genetic

jimmydddd|1 month ago

You're trying to make a well-reasoned argument that includes subtle points. That is beyond the scope of a comments section like this.