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lillecarl | 1 month ago

I highly doubt the Swedish government has a way to turn off our internet. Our government doesn't own our internet infrastructure, it's owned by private companies. The government could impose legislation to force providers to comply with shutting down international peering but I have a hard time seeing it pass.

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elzbardico|1 month ago

Well. I can't talk for the current government of Sweden, but if I was the supreme leader of a Swedish Dictatorship, I am pretty confident that I could accomplish that by sending some very persuasive soldiers along with a government officer with some papers ordering those private companies to do whatever the fuck I wanted unless their executives wanted to experience some extra holes in their bodies.

lillecarl|1 month ago

Luckily Sweden is not a dictatorship and doesn't have a supreme leder. Our government can't just hand-wave things. There's the legislative branch which must've had the foresight to make laws that allows the executive branch to order operators to comply.

The parent asked "Which technologically advanced democratic countries DON'T have this capability already developed and deployed?" and there are many, every country on earth isn't run by warmongering corrupt idiots.

SJC_Hacker|1 month ago

Guys with guns can be pretty convincing

2b3a51|1 month ago

Does Sweden not have the equivalent of the UK's civil contingency act?

Section 2 basically allows the Westminster government to make regulations as they see fit during an emergency, but with a short time scale (like a month or so) before parliament gets a say.

alephnerd|1 month ago

> I highly doubt the Swedish government has a way to turn off our internet

You guys do. Säpo and Telia were a customers of mine when I was still an IC.

epolanski|1 month ago

The providers have to oblige any government order.

cromka|1 month ago

> Our government doesn't own our internet infrastructure,

Does ANY country from the list above own their internet infrastructure?

joe_mamba|1 month ago

>it's owned by private companies.

So what? If it's on Swedish ground then it's under Swedish government(military) enforcement in case the shit hits the fan.

>The government could impose legislation to force providers to comply with shutting down international peering but I have a hard time seeing it pass.

Do you think if Russia invades Sweden tomorrow, private businesses can still do whatever they want like in peacetime, or will they have to follow the new waartime rules set by the government and enforced by armed soldiers knocking on their door dragging them to court if they refuse to comply?

lillecarl|1 month ago

> Do you think if Russia invades Sweden tomorrow, private businesses can still do whatever they want like in peacetime

Pretty much

> or will they have to follow the new waartime rules set by the government and enforced by armed soldiers knocking on their door dragging them to court if they refuse to comply?

They'll be dragging them to court. We're a democracy, we don't just send soldiers after our own.