[dcastm]

Which is why fewer and fewer companies are hiring in Europe.

[1121redblackgo]

And why people are jumping out of buildings, actually and metaphorically, in 996 cultures.

[OhMeadhbh]

i think Amazon only had one person jump out of a building last year. it's not as common as you might think.

[trgn]

I'd say the exact opposite. engineering is markedly being outsourced to europe.

[Macha]

There’s sort of a rotation going on in a lot of companies. There were companies which had Europe as the low cost location compared to America are now moving the type of work that had been done in America to Europe and what had been in Europe to India. But also companies treating European countries as high cost now and looking for new low cost countries

[amarant]

Are they? Do you have a source for that? My impression is that it's easier to find engineering work in Stockholm than in silicon valley atm, but I haven't measured objectively.

[dcastm]

I live in Spain. I’ve been in the industry for the last 10 years.

I’ve seen from a very close distance several European companies move a big part of their operations to India. Have had close friends laid off recently and seen them struggle for months to find a new jobs. Plus, I see tighter freelance market these days.

This was unthinkable not long ago.

[joe_mamba]

Stockholm is not representative of entire Europe same how SF isn't representative of entire NA. There's too many variables and shades of gray to give a simple answer, with closest to a correct answer being "it depends" based on where you live, how good you are and how in demand your skill set is to the demand of your local market, but the market is pretty much fucked in many high-CoL locations worldwide due to offshoring to cheaper locations and many businesses in Europe seeing orders fall.

[OhMeadhbh]

is that for startups or for the big guys like Ericsson?

i have to admit i was surprised by how much startup activity was going on in Stockholm in the last 20 years. but disappointed by how few startups don't get B or C rounds or get bought after their A or B rounds run out.