[sermah]

Sorry, but this sounds straight up like “lock yourself up in echo chamber”. I don’t completely disagree that many things just don’t work, especially planners. Meds are just too easy to use, you basically buy yourself a “walking stick” and do nothing to learn walking by yourself. This is something a lazy/ADHD person would do, not a one willing to strengthen their mind.

[TheCapeGreek]

At some point you become exhausted of self-managing in an environment that is not suited to how your mind works.

IME with the meds, the biggest benefit is not focus during its effective period, but the fact that I can still live my life properly afterwards. As in, I haven't had to spend all my day's willpower to stay on task with work, so I have more mental energy for the rest of my life.

[Starman_Jones]

You're arguing that meds are a crutch. Crutches are needed if you have a broken leg, or, in this case, a broken neural signalling system.

[Bridged7756]

It's always nice to have the professional opinion of a psychiatrist over here. It's the first time I hear that "meds being too easy to use" is a drawback, coming from a professional, guess I've come addicted to my psychiatric ailments solely due to how easy the medication is to take, I mean, just a pop and a gulp and I'm the happiest person in the world, so much so that I stop trying completely to better myself!

Oh, how little I am learning to walk by myself. I would be running by now if I was unmedicated and about, the problem is that my mind is weak and I'm lazy. If only I had traded these woke mind virus pills for a stoicism book, or lifting metal, or 'detoxed', what a silly human I am. But I guess the weak and mentally strong, unlike yourself, can't do much about it but keep taking all this poison and remaining sheep. Please keep enlightening us with your knowledge and superiority.

[stranded22]

Pardon?

This comment literally shows why you do not understand ADHD.

Reckon people haven’t TRIED?

And how dare you call someone lazy if they have ADHD?!?

I’m the hardest working person I know - but because of meds, I have been able to focus better. My long term planning is 0, and my executive function is low. But sure, I’ll just try a bit more.

Smh.

[nxobject]

They are an ADHD person. I don’t think we’re at the point in history any more where we leave people to deal with it alone - as with other chronic conditions like depression, sleep apnea, anxiety, obesity, and heart disease, where there are a wide variety of techniques, but with them alone you’ll still be left with a significantly impacted and less fulfilling life.

[Bridged7756]

Don't bother. They know what's up, every ailment can be overpowered and "cured" with willpower. This person is clearly on another plane of "enlightenment", so to say.