[jellyotsiro]

Open source models with minimal safety fine tuning or Grok

[apercu]

Grok is arguably not uncensored, it’s re-aligned to a specific narrative lane.

“Uncensored” is simply a branding trick that a lot of seemingly intelligent people seem to fall for.

[kanzure]

Wait, is abliteration actually just a branding trick? That doesn't sound correct.

[axegon_]

Saying grok is uncensored is like saying that deepseek is uncensored. If anything deepseek is probably less censored than grok. The doplin family has given me the best results, though mostly in niche cases.