[kyralis]

That's a challenging claim to justify when their output is the Cybertruck. Honestly, none of Tesla's lineup is currently impressive - it's mostly gimmicky with less than stellar build quality.

I strongly considered a Model S years ago when they first came out, but the price just didn't seem justifiable. Now? The world has moved on, and Tesla... hasn't.

[scottyah]

You give me absolutely nothing but hand waving, so I can't really take what you say seriously. What is "gimmicky" to you- 240v outlets in the bed? Adjustable ride height? the first steer-by-wire vehicle? 48V wiring? rear wheel steering? The ability for it to autonomously drive better than 70% of all drivers on the road? Being able to run your house on it for days in emergency situations?

If you were looking for a cheap car, why look at the model S? The 3 and Y were designed for that. It seems that you're not part of the world that's been moving on, the only updates you care about are ones that bring no real news.

[giancarlostoro]

Has the world moved on? While it may be anecdotal my area has only exploded with Teslas, I live in Florida for context. I see Cybertruks nearly everyday (some days I don't have to drive anywhere due to working remote). I always see a Tesla, heck, sometimes I see two or more of them at any given time, all over Central Florida I always see a Tesla somewhere, but in my area in particular it feels like "Tesla Country" at this point, and I don't see it dwindling, they just built another Tesla building near our Airport (MCO) too. Even see some bumper stickers on Teslas with "Elon" crossed out on them. Heck, my wife's own relatives have Teslas and they don't like Elon's politics, nor do they live in my area.