[appointment]

> That’s not to exclude the harsh reality of mining for the minerals required to build these, nor the land use concerns.

This is Big Oil propaganda. The impact from this is massively less than the horrific damage caused by every part of the fossil fuel industry.

[mrpopo]

Yep. It's not just oil rigs in the desert. Chevron in Ecuador destroyed the Amazonian rainforest. Oil pipelines and open pit mines destroying Canadian primordial forests. Probably tons of untold stories.

[ChoGGi]

> open pit mines destroying Canadian primordial forest

And our lovely tailings: Syncrude Tailings Dam

[Rover222]

Similar to the idea that electric cars are net worse for the environment because some of the materials used to make them. Worse than 20 years of burning gasoline in an ICE car? It's so ridiculous.

[gregbot]

it depends where your electricity comes from actually. In west Virginia it comes from coal so is worse than a hybrid but still better than non-hybrid gas cars (in terms of CO2)

[roxolotl]

It’s so interesting seeing some of the comments about this. The sentence I wrote after that blames war and global devastation on fossil fuels. I was expecting to get flak for being too harsh to fossil fuels but somehow it swung the other direction. Which, as someone who shouts at the radio when the greenwashing oil ads play on NPR, is heartening.

[ainiriand]

Absolutely, one single point to confirm what you say, the Niger Delta: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St7yWvGTDmo

[newyankee]

especially when the most important total cost of ownership over life is considered