[unstyledcontent]

Make no mistake, the immigration enforcement operations in Minnesota are only a training ground for how to undermine civil rights for us all. Everyone is ok targeting te immigrant populations because they are "illegal" or live in a gray area of legality. But eventually these same tools will be used against us.

[matthewkayin]

> Everyone is ok targeting the immigrant populations

To echo another commentor, we're not. And even if we were, this is not how it should be done. Enforcing the laws is one thing, but we have to have due process. Without due process, we have no rights.

[jasonjayr]

Due process for EVERY person in the legal territory regardless of who or what they are. Otherwise it's way to easy to say, "they're the other, and have no rights", and they are already using this line.

[jawilson2]

> Everyone is ok targeting te immigrant populations

No, we're not.

[hydrogen7800]

I think the GP means the collective "we" is OK with it, evidenced simply by the fact that it is happening.

[unstyledcontent]

I meant "we" in the sense that our country has yet to put an end to it and there is still a majority of people either actively in support of ICE or remaining silent.

[mosura]

Then argue for democratically changing the law to make them unambiguously legal.

Selectively enforcing only the laws you want to is the key enabler of corruption.

[ceejayoz]

> Selectively enforcing only the laws you want to is the key enabler of corruption.

Like expanding Presidential immunity specifically for a President with 34 existing felony convictions?

Or the admin refusing to even investigate the agent in the Good shooting (https://www.axios.com/2026/01/14/ice-trump-minneapolis-inves...) while going after her widow (https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/13/us/prosecutors-doj-resign...)?

[lokar]

Current ICE/Homeland Security actions are unambiguously illegal.

The problem is that without an independent congress the US system is able to descend into authoritarianism. The court has (reasonably) decided that on many broad issues regarding presidential actions and abuse of authority only congress (via impeachment and removal) is able to constrain the president.

The current congressional majority has, for now, decided to allow the president to do almost anything he wants, regardless of the law and constitution.

[bonsai_spool]

> Selectively enforcing only the laws you want to is the key enabler of corruption.

That's what the OP is saying.

[pstuart]

Congress has been neutered and there's been efforts to ensure that it stays that way.

[jordanpg]

Along the same lines, anyone who thinks this is just about immigration should ask themselves what all these tens of thousands of ICE agents are going to do when all the immigrants are finally deported.

Are they just going to go home and go back to their old jobs? Or do you think the Administration is going to find something else for them to do.

[Aurornis]

Deportations aren’t all that high. The raids are theater.

Thinking that they’re going to deport all the immigrants isn’t realistic or supported by the numbers. Immigration control is a constant ongoing operation in every country. This administration is just making a big show out of it for political points.

[actionfromafar]

They might "look for immigrants" near polling stations in November?

Would be very bad if "immigrants" (i.e. not wearing a fair face with a matching MAGA hat) could vote, amirite?

[FartinMowler]

They could monitor the midterm elections /s

[kilroy123]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_They_Came

[superkuh]

>the immigration enforcement operations in Minnesota

If you think this is only immigration enforcement you haven't been paying attention. That was ostensibly what Trump campaigned on. That is not what is happening in Minnesota and other previously safe places. What is happening is a massive terror campaign against all US citizens who don't happen to be the right color. And increasing, against everyone.

[the__alchemist]

I have a hunch most people recognize this, but many are ok with it. I have hope (But not confidence) people will see this in the upcoming US elections and more broadly. This is transparent authoritarian behavior.

Edit: Challenge: If you downvoted the parent post here (It's currently grey), I would love to hear why you think this doesn't match the pattern. Are you living in the US? I in general am struggling to understand my fellow US citizens, given the history of our nation.

[smt88]

I expect masked ICE agents to be deployed to polls in purple and blue states to "prevent non-citizens from voting" (i.e. to scare minorities away from polls)

[RHSeeger]

I would start with this, because it's a flat out lie

> Everyone is ok targeting te immigrant populations because they are "illegal" or live in a gray area of legality.

People have been complaining about the attack on immigrants for a good, long while. And the complaining has been getting louder, more frequent, and from more people with every day. When they kidnapped workers and suddenly the price of everything went up, there was a lot of "see?!? this is what we're talking about"

So no, "everyone" isn't ok with the targeting of immigrants.

[ks2048]

Musk tweeted yesterday that speaking hate against the country should be considered treason and lead to being locked-up.

It's not hard to shift "anti-American" speech to mean "anti-ICE", anti-current-administration, etc.

[cies]

He should be allowed to say that.

But it should not be enforced, or the constitution became toilet paper. I think we are arriving at the latter.

[andruby]

Mr "free speech" Musk (/s)

If it is this tweet you are referring to, it's about _teaching_ hate, which is only a slight nuance and still a terrible point to make for a self-labeled "free speech absolutist"

> Teaching people to hate America fundamentally destroys patriotism and the desire to defend our country.

> Such teachings should be viewed as treason and those who do it imprisoned.

https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/2011519593492402617#m

[10xDev]

Palestine was the training ground, now it is being deployed back at home. Turns out it is a small world and you shouldn't have selective empathy.

"First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Communist Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist Then they came for the Jews And I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me"

[gadders]

Citation needed.