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fourseventy | 1 month ago

Yes. ICE has existed long before Trump and will exist after. Deportation of illegal immigrants is not a new thing.

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nullocator|1 month ago

Trump as demonstrated that the next president has full authority to disassemble and disband effectively any agency or federal organization that they like. So I wouldn't be so sure that ICE will exist after Trump, assuming we continue to have fair elections which is a big if I guess.

I certainly would consider voting for a candidate who expressed a desire to exercise this authority and presidential power to defund ICE, fire and federally blacklist all of it's former employees during that presidents term.

NickC25|1 month ago

oh please.

I live by one of his golf courses.

The folks there watering the course, cutting the lawn, moving the greens, and cleaning the facilities are most definitely not US citizens, most definitely are not English speakers, and I'd bet a lot of money are not valid green card holders or work visa holders. You think his courses in immigration hotbeds like New York or Southern California are any different? Fuck no they aren't.

You're backing a wanna-be tough guy who can't even practice what he preaches.

fourseventy|1 month ago

How do you know they are not US citizens?

footy|1 month ago

ICE has only existed since 2003 which I'd argue is not "before Trump" and regardless is not a long time.

fourseventy|1 month ago

It was 13 years before Trump was president. Before ICE existed other agencies handled immigration enforcement. Everyone in this thread is acting like illegal immigrants have never been deported before Trump was elected.