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nipponese | 1 month ago

Can anyone explain a user flow for how a Palantir product enables ICE to go from app launch to ‘target arrested’?

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xcskier56|1 month ago

Here's an example. One of my friends works for a manufacturing company. He attended a protest. The next day ICE called his employer and he was informed that if he attended another protest he would be fired. All this b/c he had a small company logo on his jacket.

The ability to en-mass record, lookup and intimidate citizens is unprecedented and while I have no hard proof that this is due to Palantir, it sure smells like it

tastyface|1 month ago

Firing due to political activity outside of work? That sounds super illegal.

advisedwang|1 month ago

My understanding (and I couldn't get past the app paywall) is that Palantir is joining databases from many different federal and state agencies, including passport and driver license photos. The app then allows you to scan a phase and it finds a match. It returns information on the person found, including citizenship.

The existence of this technology means that ICE can grab anyone they want, scan their face, and instantly have (or not have) probable cause to arrest them. Without the app, there would be hours before probably cause could be established which makes justifying the detainment legally much harder. I.e without the app, ICE has to actually build a case or see something suspicious for each target. With the app, ICE can just mass sweep people.

Which should be illegal, but thanks to the shadow docket order on Noem v. Vasquez Perdomo, is happening anyway.

15155|1 month ago

CBP has been taking photos of all legitimate foreign visitors to the US for over 20 years. I presume any catch-and-release border apprehensions are subject to the same photographs.

How hard is it to do facial recognition on just this dataset in real-time?

welcome_dragon|1 month ago

NGL this sounds like pretty basic technology

rhubarbtree|1 month ago

You can be fairly certain that database also uses data from the US social media companies.