[throwaway853578]

Because I have a kid to take care of. A job I need to keep, and a way of life I'd like to maintain. Because it's not happening where I live (yet).

I care about people but I don't give a fuck about my country. It's just a place to live. If it gets too bad I'll move my family elsewhere.

Also, this whole checks and balances thing we learned about in school will surely kick in sometime soon...

[embedding-shape]

> Because I have a kid to take care of. A job I need to keep, and a way of life I'd like to maintain.

Exactly, so why not go out on the streets and actually defend those things then? Currently your (presumed) inaction will cause those to be harmed, you're not "saving those" by saying and doing nothing, you're effectively giving them away if you don't actively protect them.

[throwaway853578]

Because actually defending those things requires violence and I shy away from that. Sitting on the sidelines and protesting doesn't do a damn thing. It just makes the maga people laugh harder. Case in point: our own president sharing an AI video of himself wearing a crown and dumping feces on protestors.

[senordevnyc]

The same reason you guys don't just deal with any of the big problems facing Spain that collective action would solve pretty quickly?

[agubelu]

So you don't do anything because you have a job you need to keep and a kid to take care of, but you're perfectly okay with moving to a completely different country on short notice?

[toomuchtodo]

The US, for better or worse, isn't a cohesive country of people interested in a collective, but a smash and grab of economic gains sourced from those who are forced to live in it and cannot flee to developed countries. You come to it, or stay in it, to make more income you would in developed countries at the detriment of everyone else.

Whether you believe the economic human factory farm that is the US is worth saving or preserving will be a function of your lived experience and mental model. "What are you optimizing for?"

[throwaway853578]

Yes because one of those can get my face smashed in by a baton. Moving is a far safer option for my family.

Call it selfish if you want (hell, I'd even agree with you) but my priority is my family and my life. This idea that I have to care about "my country" is patriotic BS pounded into us to make it more likely to join the army.

[dpc050505]

>If it gets too bad I'll move my family elsewhere.

They're talking about starting wars with the rest of the occidental world. There won't be a elsewhere where you'll be welcome.

[findthewords]

That is a very Russian way of solving the problem.