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codezero | 1 month ago

The military can very easily find and eliminate repeaters very quickly and almost certainly would.

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torlok|1 month ago

Then get more? Sounds like a fantastic way to waste military resources. I have no clue why this mythical US military might and efficiency idea persists after so many failed interventions.

kevin_thibedeau|1 month ago

The intervention part is an administrative problem the military isn't designed for. For the core mission of collecting intelligence, eliminating targets, and occupying land, the US has an unrivaled track record over the last 85 years.

bb88|1 month ago

No, just blast the hell out of the ISM bands on which they operate. This seem certainly feasible for a military apparatus the size of the US.

ungreased0675|1 month ago

You must have missed the S-tier op that went down January 3rd.

kingkawn|1 month ago

The interventions fail only after enormous slaughter, which people are understandably keen to not be subject to

subscribed|1 month ago

I don't think it's going to be military killing a Americans. As of now it more looks like federal government.

Nevertheless, sure, in the rural areas, but less so in the cities, reflections and bending of the waves make it much harder, and a single repeater with solar panel and battery could plausibly be made under $50.

bb88|1 month ago

A military won't be killing all Americans, just the ones it can label as "terrorists" to the people who elected them.

ozfive|1 month ago

They are being made. I have a four node network already in my suburb. There is a software project that is written in Python that essentially turns lorawan nodes into BBSs similar to briar.

trhway|1 month ago

Repeater coupled with [autonomous] drone to change [hard-to-get-to rooftop, treetop and the likes] location every 10 minutes like in a combat zone.

hrimfaxi|1 month ago

Repeaters built into collars and put on feral cats.

monkaiju|1 month ago

Is this a real thing???

aaravchen|1 month ago

Why would they bother? Super low bandwidth unencrypted communication they can triangulate if they really need to sounds like a perfect thing to let keep running and just monitor. Then you can triangulate just the "seditious" people who incriminate themselves.

aaravchen|1 month ago

I guess if you were relying on the meshtastic network as a backbone network replacement, which I'm not sure much of anyone is even currently setup for and I've heard isnt really feasible with the naive meshtastic toy implementation, you could be sending encrypted traffic. But then you have to have pre-shared encryption keys for participants and it will significantly lose it's usefulness for adding new adopters.

culi|1 month ago

They're incredibly easy to build and even disguise as lawn ornaments as Benn Jordan showed in a recent video. When it costs us less money and time to build them than it costs the gov't to find/destroy them it's a worthy investment

ozfive|1 month ago

Maybe ham repeaters but when we are talking lorawan they will have a hell of a time taking the networks down that are already established. Just in my suburb we have more than 6000 nodes because of the helium network.

NoiseBert69|1 month ago

You can build a Meshcore/-tastic station for less than 15€ if you are into PCB design. It's like fighting against off-the-shelf drones.

bigfatkitten|1 month ago

At no time from 2001-2021 did the Taliban find themselves short on VHF repeaters. If one gets taken down, put up another one.

esseph|1 month ago

It would be futile. It's a big country full of 340,000,000 people.

Great way to waste resources though.

vfclists|1 month ago

Isn't stopping abuses of the power of the military the reason for the 2nd Amendment?

Why don't the people in Minnesota go open carry and let ICE agents think twice before drawing their weapons on people?

soulofmischief|1 month ago

Renee Good was killed after dropping off her six-year-old child at school. I agree with you, but people like her have children and are not trying to die in the street just for looking at somebody the wrong way. And it's one thing to open carry, it's another thing to become a trained and confident marksmen.

And as someone who has had half a dozen police officers simultaneously pointing guns at my head, mistaking me for someone else in public, once you're in that situation, escalation is only going to lead to death. Out here, police shoot you if your hand goes anywhere near your waist.

bb88|1 month ago

>Isn't stopping abuses of the power of the military the reason for the 2nd Amendment?

It was for establishing well ordered militias. They could be used to help defend the country in a time of war.

> Why don't the people in Minnesota go open carry and let ICE agents think twice before drawing their weapons on people?

Most of the demonstrators believe that "the pen is mightier than the sword", and non-violence is the way to achieve political means. (Ghandi, MLK jr.)

When the peace-niks start amassing guns, that's when you have a tipping point in this country.

theshrike79|1 month ago

Because the pro 2nd amendment people with "Don't tread on me" tattoos are going to "Tread on me harder, daddy!".