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nsmdkdfk | 1 month ago

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boringg|1 month ago

China doesn't do friends - thats for sure. However if you have a transactional trade relationship with clear boundaries that don't get undermined due to random temperaments you can build on that. The other is impossible to build on - especially threatening to own the country.

This is an eye opening event.

ceejayoz|1 month ago

Yeah. Nations need reliable partners more than they need unreliable friends.

adamiscool8|1 month ago

China and their famously steady temperament would never be so bold as to try to own a dependent country or strategically weaponize trade. These are real things Canadians believe - talk about eye opening!

footy|1 month ago

neither does America, and they're much closer and dangerous to us at this time.

chrisco255|1 month ago

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lordgroff|1 month ago

The idea that any country does 'friends' is, frankly, incredibly naive. Besides, Carney doesn't want to be friends with China, he wants to open up the market between the two countries. Of course, everyone here was better off when the trade flows crossed the natural north/south border, but this dependence created a weakness in a situation where our neighbourly hegemon decided to not be so neighbourly anymore. Turns out we weren't friends either.

layer8|1 month ago

predictability != friendship

And America currently does neither.

justonceokay|1 month ago

Does the US “do friends?” Does France? Does any country?

boringg|1 month ago

Shared values do have meaning and an importance. They used to mean a fair bit especially when you needed to fight an aggressor.

Analemma_|1 month ago

Between the US and China, one is right now making active threats to invade and annex Canada, the other is not. "Who should we forge ties with" seems pretty obvious.

chrisco255|1 month ago

No one is making serious threats to invade Canada, that's ridiculous. We don't need maple syrup that badly.

cmrdporcupine|1 month ago

Geopolitical / economic activity doesn't happen on the basis of friendship.

The US has exploited Canada for decades. Sometimes it's been somewhat beneficial for some part of the Canadian working class. Other times not.

China will do the same. Just from a further distance.

Americans who like to convince themselves that the US has been doing charity work for us are delusional. They've benefited from discounted resources and cheap labour.

Now China will benefit from that instead, and the US will look internally for cheap labour of its own. American workers who think they'll get a good deal out of cutting Canada out of the equation... again, delusional. Their necks are first on the chopping block. First through paying more at the cash register because of tariffs, and next because the Trump admin will be coming after their salaries next.