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harrisi | 1 month ago

For what it's worth, the ICE agent who shot Good, Jonathan Ross, worked for US Border Patrol for eight years and has been working for ICE for a decade. Further, "Ross testified in December that he was 'a firearms instructor, an active shooter instructor ... a field intelligence officer, and ... a member of the SWAT team, the St. Paul Special Response Team'."[0]

So, not only not untrained, he is a trainer.

[0]: https://www.wired.com/story/ice-agent-jonathan-ross-renee-go...

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defrost|1 month ago

And yet he put himself in front of a vehicle that had a driver and a running engine, and partnered up with other agents who acted as a group with zero cohesion, issuing conflicting instructions, escalating the tension of a traffic infringement they had no actual legal authority to engage with.

Every trained professional I've communicated with in regard to this incident has effectively shaken their head and referred to it as a clown show of epic proportions, a textbook example of how not to engage with the public, an example of how authoritarian states deal with people they have no regard for.

Let's be honest, a great many US enforcement types come to firearms use with an any excuse approach coupled with an absence of ability to de-escalate situations. They act like walking cans of petrol looking for a tinder to throw themselves on.

harrisi|1 month ago

Just to be clear, I think the situation is disgusting, entirely unprofessional, and intentionally violent. Maybe the shooter didn't make those mistakes to have a reason for murder, but the idea that someone of his experience would make such a completely foolish mistake is absurd.

Nobody, as far as I know, has any intention of hitting me with their car. Yet, for about a dozen simple reasons, if I'm crossing a walkway, driveway, or whatever with a car also trying to enter the road by driving through the area I'm walking, I often will walk behind the vehicle. People make mistakes. There are blind spots. Maybe they're having an emergency. Maybe they're intoxicated. Or maybe they do want to hit someone with their car.

It's just absurd to think this was appropriate behavior by a seasoned professional. It's not even the appropriate behavior for a reasonably developed child.