[Simulacra]

Where is the line between whistleblower and doxxing?

[superkuh]

Pretty simple. These are federal government employees and county sherrifs. People in public positions. It's whistleblowing. This isn't any information about the people except in the context of their public employement status. Very clear cut.

If it was their home phone numbers and addresses it might be slightly less clear. But it isn't. Take a look yourself before asking an obvious question next time.

[Havoc]

I believe the line lies somewhere around masked men harming innocent civilians

[goatlover]

No other LE agency needs masks and refuses to show badges and warrants when asked. So fuck ice and their privacy concerns. They deserved to be doxxed.

[mktk1001]

You can find all the professors employed by a public university and their salary. How is ice any different when it comes to accountability for public funds?

[jjav]

Very simple: when the government is acting illegally (violating the constitution, laws, and court orders), anything you can do to expose them is whistleblowing.

doxxing OTOH is when you try to get an innocent person to be attacked by law enforcement on some fabricated reason.

[zetanor]

It's whistleblowing if I agree, doxing if I disagree, of course.

[BadBadJellyBean]

It's a blurry line that has to do with defending and attacking and is very dependent on personal experience and moral ideas.

[estimator7292]

When the subject of such is using their power and position to hurt people vs when it's a private citizen minding their own business.

Don't apologize for actual, literal Nazis murdering civilians in broad daylight.

[nickff]

I am not a supporter of the broad powers given to Federal agents, and it seems likely to me that ICE is overstepping (what I see as) the absurd scope they've been granted by the legislature and judiciary. That said, they don't seem to be "actual, literal Nazis", and I have not seen them "murdering civilians in broad daylight", though ICE do seem to be using the very broad definition of personal protection which has become commonplace (for most police forces).

[captainvaqina]

If the fascists aren't following laws, why should anyone else?

[0xy]

Look up Brosseau v. Haugen case law. There's extensive precedent for self defense for federal agents when people drive their car recklessly near them.

Note that in Brosseau v. Haugen, the court ruled explicitly that even a car driving AWAY from an agent can be considered an imminent deadly threat, and that firing multiple times can be justified.

In fact, that case was even murkier because the target was shot in the back (versus getting shot through the windscreen into the chest), and more bullets were discharged, and the car was further away!