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tejohnso | 1 month ago

> My genuine trouble with this kind of post is that I don’t know if it is true.

Same thought I had. I mean, it sounds pretty bad but it's also making no attempt at all to report an unbiased view. I'd like to hear from officials. What are their goals, and why are they doing it this way? I don't think the majority of Trump voters wanted this kind of harm and chaos.

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blactuary|1 month ago

What is the unbiased view of a federal agency geared up for war kidnapping and terrorizing people in the streets of American city? You have no idea what it's like here right now.

tejohnso|1 month ago

> You have no idea what it's like here right now.

I don't have any idea and I'm not trying to defend or justify.

> What is the unbiased view of a federal agency geared up for war kidnapping and terrorizing people in the streets of American city?

That's exactly what I'd like to know. The report didn't provide one. That's my point. Which is fine, they didn't intent to, they were just telling their truth. But those ICE agents have a perspective, they have motivations, they're people, and while reading the report I was curious about what they might have to say about their actions.

cosmicgadget|1 month ago

Mass deportations was his signature campaign promise. It's exactly what they voted for.

cmurf|1 month ago

They knowingly voted for a racist, a rapist, a felon ...

A man who as president sent a mob to assassinate the vice-president of the United States and members of Congress, because that VPOTUS, Mike Pence, refused Trump's illegal order to overturn an election both of them had lost.

Trump voters understood.

UncleMeat|1 month ago

Stephen Miller has been extremely public about what they are doing. If you are waiting to hear from officials it is because you are closing your ears.

tejohnso|1 month ago

I'm just talking about one report. I'm not waiting to hear from anyone. I just passively consume what happens to come my way, and this is the first report about this situation that I saw on HN and took time to read.

willmarch|1 month ago

Then why aren’t they speaking out against it?

tejohnso|1 month ago

That's well established human behaviour. People don't necessarily speak out against something just because they think it's wrong.

datsci_est_2015|1 month ago

> I don't think the majority of Trump voters wanted this kind of harm and chaos.

Sorry to be vulgar, but it’s about fucking time they find the fucking courage to speak up.

I am angry at the conservative people in my life, first and second connections and beyond, not because they fell for 8 years of increasingly fascist propaganda, but because now they’re too weak and scared and cowardly to stand up and recognize that they were wrong and they’ve ushered in some of the darkest days in American history.

The American right continues to be complicit. I am losing respect daily while I watch my conservative friends not speak out. It’s heartbreaking.

yencabulator|1 month ago

Then your friends are not conservative, just right-wing.