[jnovek]

> The attitude itself is of course something has been designed and implemented into engineering culture by precisely the leaders you contend are scape goats to society. POSIWID.

I don’t know if this particular statement is true or not, but the number of smart people I know who thinks they’re not affected by propaganda is wild. We’re all affected by propaganda.

[CamperBob2]

If for no other reason, that's true because we live in a democratic republic. If you're affected by propaganda, then I am, too.