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picafrost | 1 month ago

Totally bizarre to watch the US transform from the endearingly crazy and rich friend to the one who holds you at gunpoint and robs you.

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loloquwowndueo|1 month ago

Transforms. Look at history, they’ve always done that when convenient to them.

forgotTheLast|1 month ago

The first world is now getting the third world treatment

devsda|1 month ago

True. Those who think they are being unfair just now, this is actually the fairest they've been since forever. Fairest in terms of arm twisting and other tactics being applied to everyone equally instead of being selective. Previously it was on the lines of the west and the rest, but now its just America and the rest.

subscribed|1 month ago

Putin's asset, propped to dismantle the US and western alliances.

Imustaskforhelp|1 month ago

I have repeatedly said this but it doesn't even matter if they are a putin asset or what but what they are doing is literally what Russia wants and one can realize it when they think about it for soemtime but America's literally at the weakest right now.

austinwade|1 month ago

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impossiblefork|1 month ago

So, since there's a lot of talk like this, how are we leeches?

If anything, surely it's the Americans who are leeches, what with the fact that they're living off software exports and monopolies as opposed to production of actual useful goods?

Do you think we didn't invest in our defence? Here in Sweden we put in 5% of GDP until the Soviet Union dissolved. It was pro-US politicians like Carl Bildt, a man who associated with US intelligence, who reduced defence spending. We had nuclear weapons and refrained from assembling them on a US request in return for being under your nuclear umbrella.

picafrost|1 month ago

I find this narrative in some corners of American politics fascinating because of how completely it misunderstands US power.

Hegemony isn't charity. It's expensive. What the US gains is an invitation to exert power all over the world from bases and ports within countries playing a willing role in the US position. It gains the US dollar as the reserve currency and petro-currency of the world. In particular, without the world accepting the US dollar as the reserve currency, the US's ability to maintain a large budget deficit evaporates.

To gain this sort of power without invitation and strong alliances built on shared understanding and trust will cost the US much, much more in the longer term.

jleyank|1 month ago

This tariff war also alienates us customers, which isn’t useful to us businesses. Nor to HN startups.

mindslight|1 month ago

As an American, that's not how any of this works. You've bought into foreign propaganda aimed at destroying the US's leadership position in the western world.