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wsbetter | 1 month ago

I have a genuine question.

First off, it seems pretty targeted at Trump's and Machado's situation, so I'm assuming it's based off of that.

I understand the importance and pride with an award as grand as this, but with so much at stake, is it worth keeping the integrity of the award, especially a peace award, at the cost of the freedom of millions of lives in Venezuela?

(I word it like "the cost of millions' of freedom" because from what I know, Trump has hinted that his not placing Machado in power, and instead the Vice President, was fueled in part by not recieving the Nobel Prize, and for lack of a better term, wanting to punish Machado because of that.)

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dghlsakjg|1 month ago

> I understand the importance and pride with an award as grand as this, but with so much at stake, is it worth keeping the integrity of the award, especially a peace award, at the cost of the freedom of millions of lives in Venezuela?

Is there any indication that pretending that he won would materially improve the situation in Venezuela? Machado is famous because she is in opposition to the Chavez/Maduro regime, but if you dig into her politics, she is VERY far to the right. She looks a lot more like a venezuelan Orban than Mandela if you read about her.

Awarding her the prize in the first place was a purely political decision not really rooted in merit (much like Obama), no reason for them to play a different game now.

kzrdude|1 month ago

Trump says a lot of things. There's no reason IMO to think that in this case he would have done differently if he was bribed with the medal up front. I think so because a military operation to unseat the whole leadership of the country would have been very different.