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themaninthedark | 1 month ago

In agreement with sibling colechristensen but wanted to add.

>The voters decided to pull the lever for "massively bad" during the last presidential election because they could not tell the difference.

That is being intellectually dishonest, we had already had 4 years of Trump and similarly had 4 years of Kahmala with Biden.

Saying they were ignorant or didn't understand is to ignore the electorate and their issues.

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AnimalMuppet|1 month ago

We get to give one bit of feedback to "the system" every four years. After four years of Trump, the feedback was "we don't want that". After four years of Biden, the feedback was "not that, either".

My impression of the US electorate is that they don't want illegal immigration, at least not in the volume and with the openness it was happening. They don't want immigrant trains rolling through Mexico. But they don't want the brutality and violence of the current crackdown, either.

They don't want trans people on womens' sports teams, and they don't want the US taking over Greenland.

And so on.

So after four years, the majority of voters were choosing "not Biden, and not the Biden things we don't like" rather than "yes Trump".

The place where it was "yes Trump" was the Republican primary. If you want to fix US politics, get involved with a political party - either one - and have some influence on who comes out of the primary process.

SubiculumCode|1 month ago

The problem is pervasive propaganda and information bubbles...i.e., systemic.