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Redori | 1 month ago

Google search, all social media, every LLM, etc

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hermanzegerman|1 month ago

Yeah, I'll take pharmaceutical drugs, medical instruments and machines over this overrated garbage every day.

Social Media is a net negative for society, it being gone would save a lot on healthcare spending and productivity would shoot up

For LLMs there is also good enough available from Chinese and European Companies. But also here the value is questionable

Imustaskforhelp|1 month ago

Google search: Ecosia/Qwant (actually private solutions) are working on it.

all social media: Most have fediverse open source solutions available (mastodon/lemmy/pixelfed/loops.video & peertube)

Peertube's on the more expensive side because of the bandwidth which is why you don't see it deployed but using something like upcloud/ovh which provide unlimited egress/bandwidth (both European) is a good combo for peertube imo

every LLM: there are chinese open weights model which EU can host privately as well imo. Not every country should spend essentially trillions of dollars for which china's giving for free plus mistral models exist too if you think that any message contains china partiality (like c'mon if you are gonna ask tiannmen square, then go ask mistral instead of chinese models)

pintxo|1 month ago

Search will be a problem for a while, but that's solvable.

You really think the absence of social media would be a negative?

Don't think much of Europe is dependent on LLMs, yet.

padjo|1 month ago

Surely this must be satire?

immibis|1 month ago

So nonfunctional tech, tech that hurts everyone who uses it, and nonfunctional tech that hurts everyone who uses it? That's what they'll be missing out on?

Imustaskforhelp|1 month ago

Can India sign up to the American tech ban with Europe too then please?