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TkTech | 1 month ago

I might have missed it, but no mention of _where_ data is stored in the FAQ and seems critically reliant on Cloudflare.

In a changing world, what's the selling point for those outside of the USA? Why would our company pick this over self-hosting when our country is threatened with American annexation almost weekly? If I go with Zulip, mattermost, rocket.chat, matrix, etc I introduce maintenance overhead but I don't have to worry about unstable politics or a disliked tweet getting us sanctioned and banished from American-hosted services. The chat platform we use internally is critical business infrastructure and so we're required to ask these kinds of questions for business continuity.

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BozeWolf|1 month ago

I was about to ask the same thing. I saw mentioning of gdpr, feels like at least some europeans are involved.

However: I don’t want to have my data in the US for at least 3 years. For businesses outside the US: they simply cannot have their data in US anymore.

Build european/non-us would be a great argument to use this product.

yadavrh|1 month ago

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schappim|1 month ago

@dang the founder/op’s responses seem to be getting flagged erroneously

yadavrh|1 month ago

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usefulposter|1 month ago

Please respect the HN community and kindly disclose when you are using an LLM to respond to user feedback.

janmalec|1 month ago

This response sounds very much like LLM. "You've hit on a core part of our mission.". lol

monooso|1 month ago

In terms of data sovereignty and security, the location of your servers is irrelevant if you're a U.S.-based company, thanks to the CLOUD act[1] (emphasis mine).

> The CLOUD Act primarily amends the Stored Communications Act (SCA) of 1986 to allow federal law enforcement to compel U.S.-based technology companies via warrant or subpoena to provide requested data stored on servers regardless of whether the data are stored in the U.S. or on foreign soil.

So, are you a U.S.-based technology company?

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act?wprov=sfla1

nusl|1 month ago

This is a copy-paste from some sort of LLM, which doesn't inspire any confidence. Pasted it twice too

sidsud|1 month ago

please don't reply to HN comments with AI responses