[jagermo]

I don't know. I do not like Jack Dorey's involvement. Not a big fan of his.

I'd rather use Briar (https://briarproject.org/)

[atoav]

If you don't like a thing and share that dislike, care to elaborate your reasoning so others can profit from it?

[bariswheel]

Indeed, it's immature to disclose an opinion without being forthcoming and add some objective rationale behind a bold conclusion as disliking an entire person. It may be something they said, or did, getting specific would help, ideally something that is relevant to the original thread. It's not entirely helpful and potentially a negative impact to just imply you don't like someone. Do what you want obviously, that's my 2 cents.

[akiarie]

Obviously because he was one of the architects of the censorship regime of the late 2010s and early 2020s that nearly changed the internet into a three-letter-agency controlled space. If that isn't a risk for a censorship-resistant app, I don't know what is.

[gloxkiqcza]

There’s no app for Apple platforms making it a lot less useful.

[maqp]

That's probably because AFAIK Apple doesn't allow process forking, making any Tor-based messenger almost impossible to run as Tor would have to run as part of the main thread.

[utopiah]

True but I assume Apple users understand they exclude themselves by demanding a "benevolent dictator" insuring they are "safe".

[troupo]

Apple pulled similar apps from the App Store: https://www.npr.org/2019/10/10/768841864/after-china-objects...

[prmoustache]

Briar has the advantage of being usable with bluetooth and internet so it makes it much more useful.

[zikduruqe]

How about Berty?

https://berty.tech/features

[jagermo]

fair point, especially in the west. But looking at the market share, Android is probably the platform to build for, especially if you have an additional phone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_syste...

[anigbrowl]

Buy a cheap shit android phone for under $100 and never associate it with a SIM

[trueno]

I personally don't care if its bitchat or briar, I care about the most effective proven implementation in the end. Such a technology is needed now, not later, and if if bitchat started out as dorseys vibe coded side project last year and has now grown into something greater, then so be it.

[goodpoint]

Also why reinventing the wheel? There is already Briar.

[olejorgenb]

There's also Berty https://berty.tech/features/

[keepamovin]

I agree, enthusiastically and wholeheartedly. The mere presence of a potentially-cancellable person poisons the entire tech stach, regardless of any other merits. If I were to use such technology I would risk becoming morally tainted by JD's potential-objectionableness, a social risk I am entirely unwilling to take. I simply cannot endorse such technology that is not fully sanctioned by the High Table of Moral Certification & Transactional Stamp Duty. I must therefore distance myself from any such endorsements and withdraw my support regardless of whatever so-called "technological" merits such technology may claim.

Please view my participation in this discussion as certified proof of the objective verification of my moral essence. I hereby claim superiority now and forever over JD and any such users of said technologies. Sincerely and respectfully (without any possible hints of objectionableness), the undersigned.