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Melonai | 1 month ago
I'll also concede that I used a lot more hyperbole to exaggerate how bad men must feel when faced with some (very non-violent) push-back in a progressive environment, and I was a lot less descriptive with the actual assault, rape, murder and violence that women face under the patriarchy, represented by the other side with my example of Andrew Tate. I did not mean to equate those two and be "pick-me"-ish, but I see how you can come to the conclusion from my comment.
Mostly I wanted to say that although societal misogyny is a whole lot worse than any hate aimed at men (and again, I want to emphasize that women suffer a LOT more under patriarchy than men do when women are slightly mean to them because of said patriarchy, I really do NOT want to equate the impact of those two!), I still think the proper response is to try to reach an understanding that every human in front of you is unique and isn't defined by their gender, skin color, race any more than they are defined by their hair color or the tone of their voice. This is pretty idealistic and I will not fault any woman who feels unsafe being alone at night with an unknown man around, after all I feel that myself, too, plenty of men have been shitty to me... This is also in regard to assumption, if the man you are talking with chants "Your body, My choice!" then that's not an assumption anymore, he's made the choice to be actively horrible, the nice peaceful approach is actually not possible with this man, and this counts for many men who are possibly less overt than that, whether they're mostly nice in person but actually support politicians who erode women's rights, trying to explain it away with some argument about taxes or whatever, or whether he laughs when his friends make shitty misogynistic jokes. But plenty of men don't. And I kind of feel bad for them, that's it. Really all my hyperbole was only to be read from the perspective of a man who ACTUALLY does not deserve the hate, because I do know some as my friends.
Anyway, I have to admit your response has been really painful to read since that was the exact way I did not want my comment to be read as, but it's fair enough, I just hope I was able to clarify some points, because I believe we actually agree on most issues, even if my comment can easily be read as shitty misogynist apologia. Like I said, I'm really not good at communicating.
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