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hightrix | 1 month ago

Do you have any criticisms to the parent comment? As an American, they seem pretty spot on to the current climate.

I'd argue we've never been closer to civil war than we are today[0], primarily due to trumps regime invading cities around the country, kidnapping citizens utilizing a bounty program, and killing people in concentration camps.

Ediot: [0] - Since the last civil war. I thought that was obvious, but it seems like it isn't.

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justin66|1 month ago

This comment:

A new civil war that drives the US to fragment into several independent regions over the course of the next ~five years would kind of be the best scenario from a global perspective.

is nutty.

Phelinofist|1 month ago

It is, but I get the sentiment of these comments. If the US infighting they will leave us alone.

surgical_fire|1 month ago

What is "nutty" about it?

For countries outside the US, it would actually not be a bad scenario.

Better than having your supreme leader threatening invasion, annexation, promoting coups and so on.

eli_gottlieb|1 month ago

I don't think it's all that nutty, considering that large regional blocs in the United States basically voted against all this and have less than zero desire to be dragged along for the ride, having our lives ruined for someone else's insanity.

JKCalhoun|1 month ago

The last Civil War in the U.S. had States banding together and separating from the Union.

The closest the U.S. is to a Civil War now is akin to a Cold Civil War with, for example, states gerrymandering their Representative districts. Or the Pacific states joining together for West Coast Health Alliance. Did I read rumblings about separate trade deals with foreign countries?

Protesters battling ICE in the streets would not, in my opinion, count as Civil War. Civil unrest? Sure.

EDIT: this always turns out to be one of my unpopular opinions. Oh well.

whimsicalism|1 month ago

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packetlost|1 month ago

I think you misunderstand who participates in a civil war, at least initially. It's not always the citizens, in this case it's the state militia and the federal government. We are dangerously close to that.

I agree that it's silly to say "we're as close as we ever have...", but the rest of GPs point stands. Things are bad, and just because you're not seeing it and are rich enough to not care doesn't mean it's not happening.

treis|1 month ago

We've literally had a civil war so I'd say your argument is a bit off the mark.

hightrix|1 month ago

Correct, I assumed others would understand I meant since the last civil war. Edited the comment to clear up my intent. Thank you.