[shadowtree]

But Iraq, Afghanistan, Grenada, Panama, Vietnam ... were not a problem?

Ahistorical BS, I am sorry. As if Trump is a radical departure of NORMS. Euros were chanting HO HO HO CHI MIN in 1968 in the streets of Berlin and Paris.

There is a long tradition of anti-American feelings outside the US, like with any hegemon.

The global left had to build walls to keep their people IN, crush them with tanks, from Prague to Berlin to Beijing. So there is that.

HN turning so left is weird to watch, I guess a reflection of PG's stances and moderation/group votes. Well, money does not give a fig.

[wyre]

classic whataboutism

if you don't think Trump is a departure from norms you aren't paying enough attention

[clutchdude]

I believe this is the correct response.

We're not going to debate the measuring stick when the stick itself is incapable of measuring the outcome.

In none of those scenarios provided did a sitting US president come close to insinuating acquisition of land by "hook or crook" - either agree with us or we take it.

The closest modern discussion that comes to mind is the PRC saying they could militarily "walk in and take the whole this afternoon" in regard to Hong Kong.

Thatcher, for all her wrongs, provided a salient response:

"There is nothing I could do to stop you, but the eyes of the world would now know what China is like."

The US has shown the world what we're like with the current administration.