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Attummm | 1 month ago

There is evidence that exceptionally high intelligence can work against someone in the normal world and is linked to negative school outcomes.

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robocat|1 month ago

We are taught that schooling level is related to intelligence, then we internalise that concept, then we make silly assumptions based on that concept.

Plenty of highly intelligent people don't get educated because they see through the farce, or they decide that being submissive to the system is bad, or they test poorly (e.g. dyslexic), or their intelligence has found better opportunities.

Higher education does not make you more intelligent. Nor is it a good filter/measure of intelligence. Too many people chase it for status.

I always remember one very smart lady skiting to me about aiming for B grades and manipulating lecturers since she only needed a degree to pass HR requirements. I wasn't that smart.

I try to understand my successful friends that left school at 15. Unfortunately that is a biased sample of people without higher education: they are very intelligent, effective and hard-working.

internetter|1 month ago

This is my intuition according to empirical evidence but I’m curious if you have any studies on this matter?

adrian_b|1 month ago

I am not aware of studies, but my experience agrees with this and I see nothing surprising in it.

In the schools in which I was, the best results were obtained by the students who were intelligent, but not too intelligent, because they were able to accomplish easily whatever was requested from them by the teachers and they were content with that, so they had good relationships with all teachers, resulting in uniformly good grades.

The students who were more intelligent than that, had difficulties, because they were frequently better than the teachers. Few teachers were OK with that, especially when the better students were unable to restrain themselves to not point at mistakes done by the teachers. Even when they avoided conflicts with the teachers about what is right and wrong, the better students were bored by what they were taught and they were reluctant to do various kinds of homework that seemed pointless for them. So they usually did not have good relationships with most teachers, with the exception of a few teachers, who either were very good themselves or they appreciated better talent when they saw it. So the best students had excellent grades only at one subject or two, with low grades at many others, so they ended only with average grades.