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everyone | 1 month ago

The people of the USA really remind me of the people of Russia: totally depoliticized. I think in the USA many people are really focused on a pointless culture war yet aren't politically active at all.

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epistasis|1 month ago

I think it's not so much the people that have been Russified as the institutions themselves. The media, big law firms, big corporations, have all given in to bullying and handed their power over to the authoritarian. Universities are on the cusp of doing so too. Even the Democratic Party has leadership so weak that in the current environment they will only talk about affordability and healthcare.

The media the public consumes only gives them culture war BS to work with, though. It started with Fox News, and that eventually cowed the rest of the media to give in to Fox News framing on every topic, since Fox News was so successful at winning eyeballs.

watwut|1 month ago

> The media, big law firms, big corporations, have all given in to bullying and handed their power over to the authoritarian

The media were supporting and whitewashing republicans for years now. For years now, they were full of bad faith false equivalencies. Hysteria whenever someone says true but negative things about conservatives. Somehow, only rural people count as real Americans, people in cities dont. It was important to "challenge" liberals while it was equally important to scold anyone who says something negative about republicans. Republicans must not be challenged, their actions need to be painted in the best possible light.

> big corporations

Big corporations supported Trump, because they thought he will get rid of pesky rules that prevents them from harming more people. They like when the law allows them to harm the environment, when it facilitates frauds committed by big companies.

> big law firms

Is there anything to suggest they were opposed?

Braxton1980|1 month ago

>Even the Democratic Party has leadership so weak that in the current environment they will only talk about affordability and healthcare.

As opposed to what? The majority of people took away their power either by not voting for them or not voting at all.

Multiple universities have refused Trump's demands and Newsom even threatened universities in his state if they went along with it.

Democrats speak out about everything Trump is doing. They also worked with some Republicans recently on bills that Trump is against.

So please tell me how they are at fault?

Because it seems they are at fault when they are in power and they are at fault for Republicans when they are in power.

You're also generalizing the media. It's nearly impossible they are equally manipulative.

Since no political party will be perfect we should vote for the best option

alwillis|1 month ago

> The people of the USA really remind me of the people of Russia: totally depoliticized. I think in the USA many people are really focused on a pointless culture war yet aren't politically active at all.

If anything, the opposite is true. Citizens who've never protested in their lives are now in the streets. Off-year elections have had record turnouts.

154–155 million people voted in the 2024 presidential election; that's 63-65% of eligible voters, the second highest percentage in the past 100 years.

Most Americans took democracy for granted; the possibility of losing it has caused Americans to wake up.

Imustaskforhelp|1 month ago

> 154–155 million people voted in the 2024 presidential election; that's 63-65% of eligible voters, the second highest percentage in the past 100 years.

And then trump got elected which is the reason of the crisis right now.

Perhaps American people wanted this?

Also, I think that America and Russia's probably the only biggest difference right now is protests and yea, I looked at some protests in America and how people are getting shot and even one veteran got detained who worked in iraq war for 3 days and was stripped naked and wasn't allowed to say anything and this happened a long time ago because of ICE

All because he looked brown. You could fight or die for the country & they would come to haunt you.

Veterans are calling ICE against the protestors even worse than how Veterans acted during the wars towards Iraqi citizens

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y91VgKlJfLI

I have consistently called it out but most Americans from what I can gather want to desperately fit in the two boxes and not have independent support and especially when one party's effectively doing something like this. Bi-partisanship had always ended & you can't vote for anyone more than these two parties (one of which is causing an active war in greenland but the other party's better in this context but its also complicated and they still have very much an influence caused by lobbying)

RealityVoid|1 month ago

Would have been super useful if they woke up like... A year ago. I'm afraid we might be past the point of no return. The relationships are already irreversibly damaged.