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cryptoegorophy | 1 month ago

Smartest thing would've been - move out of Ukraine. Shit went sideways long before borders got closed. There were plenty of red flags.

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verelo|1 month ago

Funny, not funny, this friend and I met up in early 2020 and had a beer down the road. He was telling me he'd rented his apartment in Liviv and was moving here next week. He had to go home to get some things, hand over the unit, and then he'd be back.

Next week was the pandemic, borders closed. He never left, and now he /still/ cant.

Scrapemist|1 month ago

They are proud people who want to defend their country.

abc123abc123|1 month ago

Let politicians fight and die in their own wars. If russia "visited" my country, I'd follow it with a drink in my hand from the bahamas. No piece of dirt or earth is worth dying for, ever.

bill_joy_fanboy|1 month ago

In this day an age, if you are a Western man defending a Western country's leading power structure, you are a fool.

The idea of being drafted to defend my country that sells me out at every opportunity is laughable.

anticodon|1 month ago

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crystal_revenge|1 month ago

The world we're headed for there is no "other place" to escape to. Many people's view of survival during collapse ultimately assumes the existence of a fairly large "safe haven" space for which they just need to survive until they get there.

koonsolo|1 month ago

That depends on a lot of personal things. I remember a Ukrainian I personally know, leaving after the 2014 invasion.

When Russia was doing "exercises" at their border in 2022, I asked them in a meeting what they felt (guys living in Lviv). Most of them thought Russia would have done it in 2014 already, and now it didn't make much sense. Only 1 person responded he filled up his gas tank. But in the end, nobody left Lviv right after the invasion.