[Scrapemist]

They are proud people who want to defend their country.

[abc123abc123]

Let politicians fight and die in their own wars. If russia "visited" my country, I'd follow it with a drink in my hand from the bahamas. No piece of dirt or earth is worth dying for, ever.

[throw0101c]

> No piece of dirt or earth is worth dying for, ever.

If no one ever defends the dirt, the pieces of earth where you can enjoy a drink in peace and freedom will shrink over time as the aggressors will continue to gobble up land because of the lack of defending.

They keep moving forward, you keep moving back, until you have no where to retreat to.

[FitchApps]

Russia doesn't just "visit" your country. Lookup what Ruskiy Mir (Russian world) really means, basically your country gets subjugated by the Russians and I'm not talking about civilized or professional Russian forces - I'm talking about drunk and poor 20yo boys from a remote Russian villages that are now seeing the spoils of western civilization for the first time (do lookup what happened in Bucha, Kyiv suburbs in 2022 at the onset of invasion). Then of course the refusal of the Russians to recognize any other culture or language...the list goes on and on. So - yes, you could escape with a drink but then "If Not Me, Then Who"?

[red-iron-pine]

"I suggest bending over immediately and giving in to their demands" -- parent poster

and this isn't "just politicians", they're cleansing populations and relocating children

[dpc050505]

If politicians and the people who voted for them invade my country and hurt my family and friends I will be looking at revenge.

[benterix]

You have a very romantic view of Russian soldiers.

[Scrapemist]

You have to be be proud, yes.

[bill_joy_fanboy]

In this day an age, if you are a Western man defending a Western country's leading power structure, you are a fool.

The idea of being drafted to defend my country that sells me out at every opportunity is laughable.

[kakacik]

This is a lie, please stop spreading those. There are no "all barbed wire" borders, no anti-personnel mines, "guards with automatic weapons" sounds like some meme from 80s video games (which border guards anywhere in the world don't have some rifle with automatic fire mode?). Young people from Ukraine can currently travel free as far as I know.

You were thinking about russia, weren't you. Its not true even for that shithole, but much closer.

[koonsolo]

I work with plenty of people from Ukraine. And recently, someone went abroad. So it's definitely still possible.