[peterisza]

It's such a shame that we have come to this. MacOS is basically Windows now. :(

[WesSouza]

Windows 7 you mean.

Windows 11 is far deeper into the sewer.

[bigyabai]

Post Big Sur, macOS has felt alarmingly close to Windows 8.

[downrightmike]

Slop belongs in the sewer

[sharkjacobs]

Has MacOS ever been better than Windows for allowing fine grained control over system services?

I've been a Mac user for my entire life so maybe I didn't understand what things were like with Windows, but the fundamental problem identified by Howard, that there are many many system daemons and it is expected that the user not know what they are, or what they do, and to just leave them alone, has been the case for at least 20 years, I think.

[p_ing]

The entire point of Macintosh is that you don't need to know anything about it (and Apple used to actively try to hide things you didn't need to know about). Or at least that is the user it has always been targeted at since the original Mac OS was released.

Windows used to be known as the OS you'd "have to" tinker with.

Early versions of OS X allowed more freedom in what you could do with the OS. As soon as SSV/SIP entered, that cut off a lot of freeform access.

[spiderfarmer]

As long as apps can continue to steal focus on windows, windows will always be worse.

[oneeyedpigeon]

Apps can do that on macOS too — Steam is a very good example.

[eviks]

It's worse on a Mac, not only can they streal input focus directly, but also visual focus by continuously jumping up at the dock

[closewith]

I don't know if you've used Windows lately, but Windows is orders of magnitude less pleasant than MacOS (or even previous bad Windows versions like Vista).