[Jcampuzano2]

This is exactly why I think Waymo will win.

My wife and I went to a couple cities where Waymo operated and when we tried it were pleasantly surprised. Talked to a few people and did some research and it's clear women feel much safer and will pay the premium to have their type of experience vs basically a random gamble as to the type of person who will pick you up in an Uber.

Not to mention lately it seems like Ubers standards for the cars picking you up have gone way down the drain. That or maybe people are just lying or gaming the system about the state of their vehicles.

And on top of that there are plenty of drivers who probably shouldn't even have a license. As a man there have been plenty of rides where I've felt unsafe simply due to erratic driving.

[0x3f]

What were you surprised about though? My expectation was always that it would be better, for various reasons.

[foxyv]

See, I'm not sure I would feel safer that way. You can stop a Waymo with a couple traffic cones and then rob the occupants. I think busses and trains are way safer. They have transit police and drivers that are able to handle situations like assault. Also, in my experience, people tend to help out when someone is being a POS and you are less likely to be robbed on a bus than in a car.

[conover]

I think the traffic cone robbery threat model also exists for non-Waymos (e.g. car jacking).

[0x3f]

This is... just not my experience at all. Passengers and transit workers alike ignore assaults. Even cops sometimes.