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DJBunnies | 1 month ago

Verifiable in this context means I can verify my vote was tallied correctly.

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BurningFrog|1 month ago

That would also mean someone could force you to show who/what you voted for.

crazygringo|1 month ago

No, because they have no idea what your true ballot ID was.

They can force you to show them a ballot, the idea is that all ballot ID's get made public. You could be showing them anybody's and they'll never have any way of knowing.

dghlsakjg|1 month ago

Not necessarily. In Colorado they handle this by putting the ballot in a blind envelope inside a trackable envelope. I can verify the details of the receipt of that trackable envelope to the tallying center where it is verified as untampered and opened under video with multiple people present. The unmarked envelope is added to all the rest of the ballots to be counted.

DJBunnies|1 month ago

Not at all. Make verification possible only at secure physical sites.

deathanatos|1 month ago

Receipt-freeness (i.e., a secret ballot) is usually the desired property. Yes, a lot of people like you state they desire verifiable votes. But that's where you need to respond to the points the person above you is making: how is such a system not also susceptible to coercion and bribery?

(However you would verify your vote, imagine the person who is coercing you is just standing over your shoulder with threat of force. An example might be an abusive husband who does not want to allow their wife to vote freely/against him. A briber might simply force you to allow them to look over your shoulder before they'll pay you off.)

Vs. paper ballots in a polling place: a coercer would not be permitted in the poll booth with me. I get to vote, and when I leave, … I can tell them whatever, but it does not need to match my vote. It utterly defeats bribery, as the briber has no way to verify that I'm doing what they way.

charcircuit|1 month ago

>An example might be an abusive husband who does not want to allow their wife to vote freely/against him

This is an edge cases which could be made illegal. If someone forces someone else to vote you could hang them.

DJBunnies|1 month ago

The person above me makes assumptions about implementation details and then pokes holes in them. I answered above.