[bobsomers]

Tesla won't achieve true safe autonomy without a significant change in strategy.

Source: I worked in AV V&V for a decade.

[dzonga]

the people competitive in this space - your Waymo's, the Chinese auto co's (banned in the US), Mercedes | GM (won't do this as it cuts into their main profit lines) - so that will only leave Waymo as the only player in automated ride hailing

Tesla is just making noise as usual.