[maxpert]

Disclaimer: I am author of Marmot https://github.com/maxpert/marmot so I will sound extremely bias.

I have been asked multiple times on why I chose SQLite and not Turso. I've always responded people that I don't trust an open-source project once it's backed by a VC firm. I've moved away from Redis to Val-Key for same reason, and we have seen the Redis train-wreck in slow-mo. I hope at no point in future Turso ever ends up in that state, but chances are pretty high. At this point the "compatible with SQLite" has become a marketing term IMO, we all know how easy it is to break compatibility here or SQLite to break compatibility.

[bawolff]

I find it crazy that people would ask you in that direction. I would wonder why anyone would chose Turso over SQLite.

SQLite is some of the most battle tested software in the world. Turso seems like relatively new software that is still a bit experimental.

You do not want your databases to be new or trendy. You want your databases to be solid as a rock.

[anentropic]

> I would wonder why anyone would chose Turso over SQLite

well, Turso adds features

otherwise yeah, there'd be no reason

[jauntywundrkind]

Sqlite had such a stellar stellar reputation, for so many excellent reasons.

I still find it absolutely freakish & abominable that people are so incredibly touchy & reflexively mean & vile to Turso. I've seen a couple Turso centric YouTube's recently and there are dozens and dozens of up votes for what just seems like the most petulant vacuous reflexive bitter viewed comments, dominating the comments. Sqlite deserves its honor, is amazing! Yes! But there's such a wild concentration of negativity about a sqlite compliant open source rust rewrite. None of it is technical. It's all just this extreme conservatism, this reflexive no, I don't trust it, fud fud fud fud.

(Can't find the worse example but https://youtu.be/CrIkUwo8FiY somewhat shows this)

I'm just so embarrassed having such low antagonistic peers dominating the conversation all the time. With zero moderation, zero maybe it's ok, just dialed 100% to no no no no. For fuck sake man. Everywhere I go it's not hackers, it's not possibility seekers, it's a radical alliance of people using fear uncertainty and doubt to cling to some past, refusing even possibility of different. It's so regular, so consistent, so tiresome and so useless.

What if this is better? What if you are wrong? What if there is some possibility of better? It just feels like all the air time is sucked up by these negative creeps, always, everywhere, all around, with these absurd vast pervading pessimisms that admit to no maybe possiblies, that see no tradeoffs, that are just convinced always for the worst. And it's just so popular! Is the plurality! How anti-hackerly a spirit is anti-possibility! The world deserves better than these endless drag-gards.

I'm obviously reacting strongly here. But I just want some God damned room left for maybe. The negative creeps never allow that: no no no no no, fear uncertainty & doubt endless & abundant, no possibility, just bad. I cannot stand the negative energy, I'm so sad the hackers have to put up with such absolutist shitty drains sucking all the energy from the room, everywhere, always. Sqlite somehow has such a strong anti-possibility anti-energy magnet around something so so good: what a shame, it deserves better, & iteration attempts deserve at least some excitement. Progress is possible, can be neat, and judging way too early & reflexively with empty comment is to be condemned, imho.

[cmrdporcupine]

So then the follow-up question to that is:

How can we make sure that fundamental pieces of open source software that power the Internet can have funding, and that the people who write them can have comfortable lives working on the piece of software they love that so many people use?

I think you've described a real problem. But people turn to VC because there are few other ways to make funding happen.

[aranw]

Which SQLite Go library do you use? My biggest pain with using SQLite in Go is often the libraries and the reliance of CGO which is what puts me off using Turso

Edit: Looking at the go mod file I noticed github.com/mattn/go-sqlite3 which I think is a C wrapper library so I'm assuming you rely on CGO for compiling

[ncruces]

You have at least 2 alternatives that don't require CGO (disclosure, I made the second one):

https://pkg.go.dev/modernc.org/sqlite

https://pkg.go.dev/github.com/ncruces/go-sqlite3